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April 28, 2009

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ejoch

I think the point you make there is a point a lot of the GOP with their heads in the sand miss. To say there's a problem with the party isn't to say that they have to do a volte-face on their core principles- many of which a lot of people still firmly believe in. But they've been captured lately by the lunatic fringe, to the extent of nominating one for veep, and until the moderates wrestle control back, they've got problems. It's a shame because with their government - and most governments- due to run out of money to fling around even sooner than expected, there is a good solid case - as ever- to be made for small government and personal freedom. And no-one making it sensibly.

I feel the Tory party example is a little bit different... they didn't lose in 92 for lack of moderates (Major hardly extreme right), they lost because they were out of ideas. The moderates lost control after the party had lost power, not because of it. Rather the other way round in the US lately.

ejoch

in 97, even :)

Marbury

I think you put it very well, ejoch. I would just say, on the Tories, that the party was captured by its ideologues whilst Major was still PM (extreme Euroscepticism being their equivalent of pro-life!) which is why Major had such a hard time and lost the election so disastrously.

ejoch

Do you think though that the damage the eurosceptics did to major was just a reflection of his and the party's weakness? If he'd had a brilliant platform and fresh ideas, noises off wouldn't have been such an issue, is my thought. Like Brown now- MPs are apparently preparing to rebel on a huge number of things, because of his weakness. (the word 'bloodbath' was just used on Channel 4 news).

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