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Dave Otto

'd like to suggest that Cybernetics offers a superior model to the Hawk-Dove game theory model for understanding Obama.

Ashby's Law of Requisite Variety: "The larger the variety of actions available to a control system, the larger the variety of perturbations it is able to compensate." That can be fairly translated as; "in a system with multiple players the player with the most flexibility has the most power"
Because he's non-idelogical and a 'ruthless pragmatist' Obama will always be the most flexible guy in the room. Especially when you consider the narrow thinking of his opposition. However, politics ain't bean-bag. To get my vote 2012 I'll need to see Obama take a few stands, ala the Hawk.

ejoch

Isn't all this a bit premature? Obama ran a very impressive election campaign, no-one can deny that. But, um, what has he done since? His handling of the Iranian crisis is showing the 'ruthless pragmatism', if that's what it is, up rather badly.
I don't know, maybe I'm just tired of endless hagiographic articles about Obama. Perhaps not just me-
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24180.html
and yes, I agree with the previous poster, taking a few stands (against someone other than US allies) wouldn't be a bad start.

Marbury

Ejoch, you say premature, I say too early. But I thought it was an interesting analogy nonetheless based on what we've seen so far. Now let's see how it plays out...And I can promise, no hagiography here.

peter

Something worth saying here: Robert Axelrod's research in game theory was motivated in large part by a belief that an alternative was needed to the Mutually-Assured Destruction policies of the Cold War, policies associated with the hawks of the US military-industrial complex over several decades -- people like Douglas MacArthur, Curtis LeMay and Henry Kissinger. It's nicely ironic if Young Barry is now using the successful policies generated by Axelrod's Prisoners' Dilemma in the very same foreign policy arena that motivated Axelrod in the first place, and against some of the same macho, wing-nut battiness that the Republican right continues to think of as reasoned policy.

As Obama has said repeatedly, the macho option DECREASES the West's safety and security, and this point bears repeating every time the wingnuts, such as John McCain, open their mouths. The best recruiting agent for Al-Qaeda these last 6 years has been the US military presence in Iraq. You don't have be a marxist community organizer from the Chicago South Side to believe this. Former Conservative Chancellor Ken Clarke made the same argument in his speech to the House of Commons arguing against the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

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Dilemma in the very same foreign policy arena that motivated Axelrod in the first place, and against some of the same macho, wing-nut battiness that the Republican right continues to think of as reasoned policy.

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